Template talk:Levels

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This is the page where you can appeal the difficulty of any level. It's now only available for levels 1-215.

01:56, August 17, 2013 (UTC)

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As it is, this template only goes up to level 245. Where are the rest of the levels?! Can you please update to include all currently released levels. Doesn't matter if you have to make another colour as a "difficulty undetermined" colour, you just need links to everywhere. Imamadmad (Contact me) 13:25, September 20, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm just only at level 152 and I am probably impotent in doing that, sorry! -- 15:08, September 20, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I've misread your message and I will. -- 15:55, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

--31.59.73.41 12:14, September 24, 2013 (UTC)Level 302 is not so hard. It should downgrade even to medium.

--31.59.64.96 19:30, September 25, 2013 (UTC) Probably the people who came to this site to check the difficulty of higher levels did the wrongest work. As level 267 is considerably easy?!?! If you just go to crushingcandies.com and read the whole page for level 267, your mouth will be open and you say to yourself: What did they think to put it considerably easy?

--31.59.76.87 09:18, September 26, 2013 (UTC) I want to give a reason this level is harder than 98 (which is marked very hard). In both levels, you have 40 moves and all 6 colors, but the target score of 110 is higher than 98, and the bombs of 110 are 5 moves, while bombs of 98 are 8 moves!! Level 98 might have some locked candies, but that is not a big problem. So in this case, either 110 should upgrade to "very hard" or 98 should downgrade to "considerably easy".

--31.59.76.87 09:19, September 26, 2013 (UTC)Sorry my meaning from "this level" in the post above is level 110.

--31.59.76.87 09:29, September 26, 2013 (UTC)I upgraded level 267 to considerably hard and this is a proof for that:

http://www.crushingcandies.com/candy-crush-saga-level-267/


 * Level 302: ❌ I will reach to that level later.


 * Level 267: It is a hard level initially. Without intervention of Lefty7788, this level is marked "hard". I hope the difficulty can be implemented soon, following the template of my sandbox.


 * Level 98: ❌ No, I feel revengeful of this level and I will strongly oppose to downgrade this level.


 * Level 110: ❌ Definitely not very hard as I pass this level for the first time in my review, there is an efficient strategy that you can follow in the page and I'm sure this is just having the same difficulty as level 98. However, I agree that this level should be upgraded back to "hard" again, yet I think level 98 is still harder than level 110, by geographical means. -- 14:36, September 27, 2013 (UTC)

--31.59.71.86 14:28, September 29, 2013 (UTC) I think we should upgrade 144 to considerably hard. Breaking 4 12-move bombs behind 2 layered meringue is not so easy. And about 121, the vote may show the level "medium" but I'm still firm that this level is considerably hard and these are reasons for that:

http://www.crushingcandies.com/candy-crush-saga-level-121/

http://www.crushingcandies.com/candy-crush-levels-111-125-tips-peppermint-palace/


 * Poll should represent the finest data. "If you want to show views of all people when it comes to difficulty, the easiest way to do that is through the use of a poll. Let people rate the level themselves and the poll will show the trend in people's attitudes towards a level. This has the benefit of pleasing everyone when it comes to expressing their opinions on a level." (by Imamadmad). Therefore, I will refuse to upgrade the level again. For level 144, I will discuss. -- 11:08, September 30, 2013 (UTC)

--31.59.71.86 13:09, September 30, 2013 (UTC)You probably need to upgrade 315 to "hard" in the template or at least in your sandbox, and you need to downgrade 246 and 251 in your sandbox as they are not hard at all. About 121, the website says it's the trickiest level of episode. Absolutely 123 and 125 are harder than that, but I think the website doesn't give wrong information. I just say "if the middle bomb in 122 make the level quite hard, the bomb in 121 makes the level hard too, much much harder than 122". For me and many of my friends, this level is much harder than 182, the supposed hardest timed level. And a poll always don't give the correct information, such as poll for "evillest level" in crushingcandies.com that votes of level 97 were much more than votes for 70, but we all know 70 is harder than 97.

--188.245.204.246 17:15, September 30, 2013 (UTC) There is another guy that agree with me with level 121. Glad to see U passed 152. Good luck with 153 and other hard levels.


 * Level 315: Still discussing at the moment, but a super big chance in upgrading.


 * Level 121: I can say the website's poll has other functions and has a different approach. In creating the poll, we focused on the difficulty of level 121. However, the website focused the "insanely hard" levels to all levels in Candy Crush Saga, which means there can be a lot of levels, thus creating some differences, like you mentioned level 97 and 70. For this poll, the choices are significantly smaller and more people experience level 121. In this way, the poll in level 121 is ought to be much more accurate than crushingcandies.com. -- 11:03, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

--188.245.204.246 11:43, October 1, 2013 (UTC) Played 121 again and passed easily. I think it's better to forget about that.


 * Indeed, and that's how poll works. :D -- 11:55, October 2, 2013 (UTC)

--91.99.24.104 11:36, October 5, 2013 (UTC)With 3 supports, I think you should upgrade 315 to "hard".

--91.99.28.4 13:00, October 5, 2013 (UTC) Level 348 should seriously seriously seriously seriously upgrade to "medium". Breaking the bomb in the bottom of board is not an easy work.


 * Level 315: ✅


 * Level 348: ✅ It is already done. -- 09:27, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

--31.59.72.24 11:41, October 8, 2013 (UTC) Level 365 is a "hard" level SERIOUSLY (not considerably hard). Even Lefty said he hates the level and storm also said he was stuck. Level 356 should also upgrade to "hard" too. There are many comments for these 2 level in crushingcandies.com. And after all, 362 is marked considerably easy!?!?!?!? The level should upgrade at least to "medium".

--31.59.72.24 11:49, October 8, 2013 (UTC)And level 361 is marked "very hard" in its original page while its "insanely hard" in your template. You need to change this. Also with 348, the level is now "medium" but "considerably easy" in your template. Please fix this.


 * Level 365, 356, 362, 361 and 348: I will talk.
 * 14:26, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

--31.59.75.134 08:39, October 10, 2013 (UTC)Wildoneshelper, as I know you are a user so you can edit list of levels. I have posted this so many times in list of levels, but no one makes the change. So if you read this, please make these changes to the list:

1- First of all, add the levels 486-500 to the list.

2-Levels 325, 419 and 421 are marked "extremely hard". This definitely needs to be changed. Downgrade them to "very hard" please.

3-These are levels that should be marked in the list:

"considerably hard for some" levels: 412,414,420,433,444,449,462,464,481,483,486,500 | "considerably hard" levels: 422,428,434,437,460,465,469,471,476,480,482,488,490,492 | "very hard" levels: 461,463,470


 * I will commit the change when I have time. Currently, I'm too busy with my schoolwork and always go home late. I went home today at around 9:30 p.m. and certainly I'm not having a lot of time in making these changes. -- 14:25, October 10, 2013 (UTC)

Lefty haz gone way too far with this!!!! How dare he protect this page! I had very good reazonz 4 changing the difficulty on thoze levelz! 192 iz clearly not worthy of "Very Easy" becuz people said it wuzn't! Everyone agreed level 70 iz "Insanely Hard". He haz only proven himself az a selfish, arrogant, tyrant. BoygeyMario (talk) 17:17, October 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * He is just not really what we want. He is Kim Jong-Un. He is beyond Louis XIV. I don't want to be Napoleon or Hitler though, but I think his actions have gone over the line. I have put level 192 and 70. -- 09:36, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

--91.99.28.4 18:36, October 13, 2013 (UTC)Level 376 is one of those that should seriously upgrade to "hard". It's much harder than 372 which is already considerably hard. Same with level 367, this level should also upgrade. "Hard" might be a bit high for this level, but "considerably hard" will do.

--31.59.75.134 18:41, October 13, 2013 (UTC)Level 376 is one of those that should seriously upgrade to "hard". Same with level 367, that level should also upgrade at least to "considerably hard". About level 372, the level is easy but marked "considerably hard".


 * Just want you guys to know that the transition of difficulty of levels from my template will happen today. In this case, level 376 will become "hard".


 * Level 367, 372: I will bring up the issue.

I don't know when Licorice Tower will be in the template... Can you complete the level pages?


 * I will try my best to comply with your request. -- 13:41, October 14, 2013 (UTC)

--31.59.75.134 17:03, October 14, 2013 (UTC) Level 406 is very easy?????????????????? This is like to say level 147 is one of the easiest levels of game! You should definitely upgrade this level to "considerably HARD" as all levels are soooooo overrated, for example levels 389 and 399. The rate of levels is much higher than what they really are and some really hard levels such as 406, 412 and 414 are rated lower than what they really are.

31.59.75.134 17:12, October 14, 2013 (UTC)I agree 395 is not a hard level, but absolutely not "very easy". This template is now soooooooooo crazy that all levels are overrated or underrated. I think the part for Licorice tower and Polkapalooza should completely change. Licorice tower is an easy episode and here most of it's levels are "hard".


 * Just want to know that I'm going to change sides to disable the difficulty. This means there will be no more grading. -- 08:40, October 15, 2013 (UTC)

--91.99.50.7 12:49, October 15, 2013 (UTC)Really? You're going to remove the grades! This will be good I think, as we write hard levels of episodes in the page of each episode, and we write difficulty for levels that give an idea to players how hard the levels are.


 * I will hold a poll on all the plans. At this moment, I think grading will still continue, but I think it will be switched to a page called "Off Topic". Then, the difficulty of pages will retire. However, please don't stop discussing the difficulty, because in this short period of time, grading is present and discussion of disabling the difficulty will take for a month. I will start a discussion on all the levels you have mentioned. -- 14:01, October 15, 2013 (UTC)

--151.246.11.216 23:29, October 15, 2013 (UTC)Level 416 is easy. It is considered the easiest level of soda swamp as everyone say, but they marked it considerably hard. This definitely needs to change and 416 needs to downgrade to "medium" at least without hesitation. Levels 412 and 414 and ESPECIALY 422 need to be marked "hard". Their hardness is clear if you just look at their board. About levels 419, 421 and 325, they are all very hard levels, but REALLY not an insanely hard level. Level 382 is also a "very hard" level and 406 is DEFINITELY at least "medium".

--151.246.15.177 07:33, October 16, 2013 (UTC)Level 316 is NOT the easiest level of episode 22. The easiest level of episode is 314. Level 306 is definitely not "easy". I think it should upgrade to even "considerably hard". To be honest, it's not so easy as it is the first level to have chameleon candies. About level 406, Boygey Mario said the level is very easy because you can combinate two coconut wheels. This combination do not happen in my game. After all. Even if they combinate, it should be "easy" (not very easy) as if you cannot bring down all ingredients with the combination, bringing the last one out is so hard.

--151.246.15.177 07:34, October 16, 2013 (UTC)Sorry I meant level 306 is not the easiest level in episode 22.Not 316.

--151.246.15.254 14:42, October 16, 2013 (UTC)Level 434 should definitely upgrade to "hard". You can feel how hard is this level by looking at the bad shape of board, bombs and chocolate factory.

--151.246.15.254 15:03, October 16, 2013 (UTC)Levels 385, 389 and 413 are ok in "considerably hard". I think levels 412, 414 and 434 are relly "hard" levels.

--151.246.12.197 17:17, October 16, 2013 (UTC)I found a hell's cluster (if 180-184 is not anymore): 417-422. All levels in this part are hard.

--151.246.21.153 06:26, October 17, 2013 (UTC)Level 396 is seriously at least "medium". If you look the difficulty, you'll see the level is not easy ay all. Breaking the 9 move bombs is not easy.


 * Seen and I will bring it out. -- 15:14, October 18, 2013 (UTC)

--91.99.9.10 15:35, October 19, 2013 (UTC)I'm sure if you hold a poll "which level is easier between 356 and 389", most people vote 389. That level was hard on ios by mistake, now much easier same as fb I think. (It's said that getting the needed score is hard. I played the level again and again, and I can get the needed score soooooooo easily)

--91.99.9.10 15:47, October 19, 2013 (UTC)I have an extremely good reason level 327 should upgrade to considerably hard. Look the board of 295 and 327, then compare them. The layout of both of them are almost exactly the same, only some single jellies in 295 are changed to double jelly in 327 (making 327 a little harder). Both of them have 6 colors, and getting the target score of both levels is not problem (getting the target score of 327 may be even harder!). In this case, level 327 should definitely upgrade to "considerably hard" without any discussion (this is because level 295 is marked considerably hard).


 * Level 416: ✅


 * Level 412: ✅


 * Level 414: ✅


 * Level 422: ✅


 * Level 419: ✅


 * Level 421: It could be "very hard".


 * Level 325: ✅


 * Level 382: ✅


 * Level 406: ✅


 * Easiest level of Savory Shoes: I will bring it out.


 * Level 306: Still nobody shows any stance.


 * Level 434: If there are no opposes, you will see this change on Wednesday.


 * Level 385: Like 434.


 * Level 389: ✅
 * 13:02, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

--91.99.29.189 18:48, October 20, 2013 (UTC)Level 198, same as level 134, is a tough timed level at least for me. It's even said in crushingcandies.com the level is not so easy. I play on ios that reshuffles won't decrease 5 second of yor time, and it's a level that you will have many reshuffles, so I think it is even harder on fb. As a result, I think the level should upgrade to "medium" or "considerably hard".


 * Level 413: Brought up the topic.


 * Level 420: ✅


 * Level 356: ✅ The difficulty should be higher than level 389.


 * Level 327: Brought up the topic.


 * Level 198: Same --  12:59, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

--91.99.29.189 17:53, October 21, 2013 (UTC)Level 332 should definitely upgrade to "considerably hard" as some of the easier levels such as 321 and 322 are considerably hard too. Level 323 should absolutely downgrade, as everyone is saying the level os not that hard (the level was extremely hard when it was first released on ios, now it's fixed and the level is quite easy same as fb). And about level 327, it needs to upgrade to considerably HARD as it is a little bit harder version of 295 (this is brilliant if you put the levels near each other and compare the layout).


 * Level 332: Discussing


 * Level 323: ✅


 * Level 327: Please be patient. -- 10:12, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

--91.99.26.190 10:39, October 27, 2013 (UTC)Hello Wildoneshepler. There are some problems in your template. Levels 412 and 414 are originally marked "hard" in their main pages but they are "considerably hard" in your template. Please fix it in template. Same with many other levels such as 356, 389, 406 and ... . You said you downgraded/upgraded them but no change in your template. About other levels, I think 420 and 422 should upgrade to "hard", and 435 and 438 need to downgrade to "considerably hard". I finished both in first try. About 427, I finished the level in few tries (playing on ios and could restart to get a good hand) but same as 428, it needs an extremely good board to play, and some other people are saying that the level is "hard". I also support their idea.


 * I'm going to fix the template.


 * Level 420, 435, 438: I'm bringing it out.


 * Level 422: ✅


 * BTW, my name is Wildoneshelper, not Wildoneshepler. Sorry to be rude. -- 04:21, October 28, 2013 (UTC)

--188.245.212.176 11:58, October 29, 2013 (UTC)I think 433 and 429 should upgrade to "considerably hard". About 433, I'm not sure because maybe I'm the only one who isn't professional in timed levels, but about 429 I'm sure. Aside from these, levels 214 and 192 are marked easy? Both of them should definitely upgrade to "medium" at least, especially 214.


 * Level 433, 429, 192:


 * Level 214: ✅ Now it's "considerably easy" because somebody opposes for medium. -- 07:12, October 30, 2013 (UTC)

--91.99.95.236 11:32, October 30, 2013 (UTC)Shouldn't 402 upgrade to "medium" or "considerably hard"? I had a hard time with the level, and it's fortunately harder than 405. Level 151 should also upgrade to "considerably hard". It's said in crushingcandies.com "this level is a tough one". And 421 might be much harder than 417 for me, but I personally think 417 is much harder than 421 and 419.

--91.99.95.236 16:10, October 30, 2013 (UTC)Level 178 should definitely upgrade to "medium". It's even said in the website it can be tricky because the bombs get stuck in the crazy places in right. Level 173 should also upgrade to considerably hard I think. I'm sure you support this because you had a hard time with that level as I know.


 * Level 402, 151, 178, 173: Discussing with this issue.  13:58, October 31, 2013 (UTC)

--91.99.95.236 22:39, October 31, 2013 (UTC)Level 399 shouldn't downgrade like that. There are still some people saying the level is very hard, so I think the difficulty should be "considerably hard".


 * Level 399: Discussing with the issue. --  06:34, November 1, 2013 (UTC)

--91.99.95.236 09:27, November 1, 2013 (UTC)Level 400 is "considerably easy"? Are you out of mind? Just compare the level with 202. In both of them, you need to make 6 color bombs yourself, but in level 202, you have a wide and open board with nothing but candies, and in level 400, you have an annoying choco machine in the middle, and licorice that fall like crazy on your head. In the case that 400 is million times harder than 202, please upgrade it to "considerably hard" or "hard" asap. If you don't believe me, pay a visit to crushingcandies.com and read the comments! No disscussion is needed for upgrading this level. And about 402, I think you need to upgrade at least to "medium" or "considerably hard" cause 2 other guys support my idea, and there ARE other people who say the level is quite hard (in crushingcandies.com).


 * Level 400: I will mention this issue. I'm not sure if everyone is against your proposal, so I'd better bring it up.


 * Level 402: Two more days and the edit will be done. --  09:34, November 1, 2013 (UTC)

--91.99.95.236 10:36, November 1, 2013 (UTC) shouldn't 367 upgrade to considerably hard? Supermario found it hard as well.


 * Level 367: ✅ 13:13, November 1, 2013 (UTC)

--91.99.95.236 19:07, November 2, 2013 (UTC)No hesitations level 455 needs upgrading to at least "hard". It's so far the hardest level for me in butterscotch boulders, and there are evidences of how hard the level is (when you went to this link, read mostly the top of the page and the paragraph in the top of video):

http://www.crushingcandies.com/candy-crush-saga-level-455/

See, it's said "probably the toughest level of episode 31", And just look how many views the skillgaming video has! I know it's views is higher than what it should be because it's a finale, but seriously, too high! Even Lefty thinks the level os hard. Another evidence for level hardness: you need 360 order candies in 40 moves (means average you need 9 candies in each move, with a really small board)! Isn't that a good reason? 15 move bombs drop on your head like crazy(like level 374) and might be stuck in isolated columns which makes much harder to break. And since your order is much harder to collect than 374, it should be rated higher than 374. I believe the result of its poll is completely wrong. Even though it's correct, you need to mark the level at least "medium" as there are still some people voted for "hard", but with the evidence I gave, you definitely need to upgrade the level to "hard" AND THERE IS NO NEED FOR DISCUSSION!


 * Level 455: ✅

02:51, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

--91.99.95.236 11:52, November 3, 2013 (UTC)Should't 402 upgrade even to considerably hard? Because of the 4 comments that say the level is so hard?

31.59.78.137 14:31, November 3, 2013 (UTC) I have a big question: Why did you downgraded 402 to "considerably easy" again? The 4 "supports" for upgrading the level shows how hard it is. Please upgrade it again.

--91.99.95.236 18:42, November 3, 2013 (UTC)In level 399, there are only 3 comments showing the level is medium, and about 7 comments are showing the level is hard! But Lefty said "everyone is saying medium" and downgraded it directly. I think disscussion is enough here, there are many people saying the level is hard so it needs upgrading to "considerably hard" or higher. And about 402, seriously 4 supports is not enough for upgrading the level one step higher?

--91.99.95.236 12:22, November 4, 2013 (UTC)I suggest downgrading 405 to "medium", 416 to "considerably easy" and 472 to "medium". You know, the level is easier than what it looks. And something fun: all level numbers that are made up of 2,4 and 5 are difficult objective levels.


 * Level 402: No, I did not downgrade the level to "considerably easy". However, I will even upgrade this level to "considerably hard" if no one objects the idea within 3 days, just to make sure everyone is supporting the idea.


 * Level 399: ✅


 * Level 405, 416, 472: Discussing... --  13:12, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

--91.99.65.130 18:05, November 5, 2013 (UTC)Level 302 NEEDS downgrading to "considerably hard", and 306 DEFINITELY needs upgrading to "considerably hard". Blueeighthnote said the level is easy, but he needed 17 attempts. That already shows another expert in this wiki had trouble with the level.

--91.99.65.130 11:58, November 6, 2013 (UTC)I suggest upgrading 303 to "con hard".

--151.246.12.156 12:30, November 7, 2013 (UTC)There are many people who think level 149 is "hard". I also support their idea. I also strongly oppose with level 419 is harder than 417. Even though I found 419 much harder, I will say 417 is much harder than 419 as most players say 417 is hard.

--151.246.12.156 13:53, November 7, 2013 (UTC)I really don't understand why you're not going to upgrade 121 to "considerably hard". Till now, if you get an average from the poll, the difficulty would be "medium-considerably hard". And with those many comments in any other websites that show how many people have trouble with the level, you definitely need to upgrade it to considerably hard. There are many levels that are overrated. "121 is quite a hard and tricky timed level", is said everywhere exept this website. I'm sure if you create a poll for each level, difficulty of many levels would change

--151.246.12.156 13:56, November 7, 2013 (UTC)And 402 needs upgrading as it's 3 days and no opposes!

--151.246.12.156 14:01, November 7, 2013 (UTC)There are many supports for upgrading level 178 to "medium".


 * I will reply to you tomorrow. Sorry! -- 14:17, November 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * Level 302: ✅


 * Level 306: ✅


 * Level 303: Discussing at the moment.


 * Level 419: ❌ Now you have a contradiction in your request, because you said 417 is much harder than 419 because most players say 417 is hard, without saying most players claim 419 is easier than 417. I can't fulfill your request, sorry.


 * Level 149: ❌ 4 supports, 2 neutrals and 3 opposes, not enough votes for upgrading this level to "hard".


 * Level 121: ❌ Three major middle values: Mean, medium and mode, all fall to "medium". However, if I hold a poll for every level, it means that trolls can disrupt what the public is aiming for, and therefore may not present the most objective information, even though level 121 is commonly voted for medium, but then a big number of people says that this level should be "considerably hard".


 * Level 402: ✅


 * Level 178: ✅
 * 14:46, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

--91.99.65.130 15:03, November 8, 2013 (UTC)This is another reason for how hard level 455 is :

http://thecandycrush.com/level455.php

Everywhere is said the level is hard! Seriously, everywhere! You know, I think there is a cheat in the poll and someone voted more than once. When the majority of websites say the level is hard, NO HESITATIONS that the level should upgrade to "hard". However, the level is NOT the hardest of episode 31 cause level 452 was hardened. Aside from these, ALL of my friends that passed this level said it was quite hard.

For levels higher than 455, I think we can temporarily put these difficulties and then disscuss about the real difficulty (I've played all of them in my friend's pc): 458:con hard, 460:hard, 461:insanely hard, 462:considerably hard, 463:very hard/insanely hard, 465:hard, 467:medium/con hard, 468:con hard, 469:hard/very hard, 470:hard/very hard, 471:hard, 476:hard, 478:medium/con hard, 480:very hard, 481:hard, 482:hard, 483:con hard/hard, 486:hard, 487:con hard, 488:hard, 490:hard, 491:con hard/hard, 492:hard

--31.59.77.125 16:24, November 8, 2013 (UTC)A suggestion: for the difficulties, you usually get an average. Why not for level 455? The poll yields to consid easy, but public says hard-vary hard. We can get an average and put this difficulty consid hard. However, I'm sure more people vote for hard or higher, cause it really is. But about some other such as 121, not all websites say the level is hard, so I think medium is ok for the level.

--31.59.77.125 17:46, November 8, 2013 (UTC)I suggest:upgrading 143 and 218 to consid hard. I also seriously support upgrading 303 and 332 to considerably hard. They both took me a while.

--31.59.77.125 17:52, November 8, 2013 (UTC)Oh I also support upgrading 327.

--31.59.77.125 18:10, November 8, 2013 (UTC)Shouldn't 149 upgrade to hard? It took me less than 10 minutes from 147 to 152, but My mom is stuck for almost one week now! I support the level to be hard.

--31.59.77.125 18:42, November 8, 2013 (UTC)Level 319 is not that hard. I suggest downgrading it.

--91.99.56.210 11:59, November 9, 2013 (UTC)I think we can hold a poll for hardest level of soda swamp (between 417,419,421 and 425). I really think 417 is the hardest level, even though I found 419 the hardest level and probably vote for that. I also think we need a poll for hardest timed level. Well it's said level 182 is the hardest timed level. I also agree cause I needed about 30 attempts on that level (hardest for me in the hell's cluster after 184), but we don't know how other players think about this. We can hold a poll between these levels: 121, 134, 151, 159, 182, 198(?), 267, 313, 358(?), 433, and 462.

--91.99.56.210 12:03, November 9, 2013 (UTC)I think 448 should be "medium". There is also evidence for its hardness.


 * Level 455: Try harder in achieving a higher difficulty. I get the result by using median, not average.


 * Level 143, 303, 332: Discussing at the moment...


 * Level 218: Not enough votes...


 * Level 327: ✅


 * Level 149: ❌ 4 support, 2 neutral, 2 oppose.


 * Level 319: 3 days more... 3 more days... 3 DAYS MORE!!!!


 * For me, I think 462 is the hardest time level now. -- 13:27, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Just see how many people are saying level 455 is hard! I'm sure if there wasn't any poll, you directly upgraded the level cause many users think the level is hard. There is also another person that thinks someone has cheated in the poll. Aside from this level, I think you need to upgrade 214 at least to con hard cause many players are saying that. 91.99.23.45 19:56, November 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * Level 455: Three more votes and this will be "medium".


 * Level 214: Discussing... --  05:17, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

If you get average from the poll of 455, it is even higher than medium (between medium and con hard). I really think someone is cheated. In the poll for 121, most people who didn't find the level hard, voted for "medium". But for 455, most votes are for considerably easy. STRANGE! 91.99.22.67 12:22, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

I have a suggestion for grading the levels:

For rating the levels, you put a difficulty, and then, we guys disscuss and some levels gradings will change. To make this better, we can disscuss the difficulty of each level BEFORE it is rated (same is now happened for meringue moor, and players are disscussing about difficulty of its levels). This will be much better, right? in this case, some incorrect rates such as the first rating of levels 402 and 416 happen less. 91.99.1.0 15:29, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Aren't the comments of 199, 400 and 420 still enough for upgrading? Aside from all of this, it seems the difficulty of level 312 should change because of the poll. 91.99.56.80 19:12, November 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * Level 455: ✅ More people have voted for "hard" and the median now falls to "considerably hard", only 1 more vote for this to be "hard". For rating the levels, basically we are using your system because I have opened a discussion for difficulty of the levels in Sugary Shire. You can check my recent blog posts to find out the blog.


 * Level 199: ✅


 * Level 400: ❌ 3:1:1, cannot be done.


 * Level 420: ❌ Not enough votes.


 * Level 312: ✅
 * 07:04, November 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * 07:19, November 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * 07:20, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

448 seriously needs an upgrade to "con hard" or "medium". There IS evidence for its hardness. 31.59.72.191 18:43, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Level 131 really needs downgrading to "medium" or "con easy". You are saying level 137 is easier than 131? This is really like a hoax. Even if we take level 137 easy, 132 and 136 are MUCH harder than 131. The level requires a downgrade. But 121 needs an upgrade.

94.201.199.38 12:51, November 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * Level 448, 131:


 * Level 121: ❌
 * 14:10, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

In level 131, there are 4 supports for upgrading from "easy", and 3 opposes (with my oppose for being con hard). So it shouldn't upgrade 3 levels from "easy". It should upgrade only 1 level (it means it should be con easy). This is while in level 149, there are 4 supports and 2 opposes for upgrading and you aren't still upgrading it even 1 level, with those many comments in crushingcandies.com and the community.

94.201.199.38 16:59, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

393 should upgrade to madium OR EVEN Consid hard. Another evidence for it: Lefty needed 24 tries.

94.201.199.38 05:49, November 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * Level 131: Actually the discussion has ended for a long time for con. hard, now it turns to downgrading to medium. Looks like I will carry out this action, and please feel free to further suggest downgrading.


 * Level 149: ❌ 4 supports, 2 neutrals, 1 oppose: Definitely the for side doesn't receive over 70% votes. Therefore, it's a no to me.


 * Level 393: Discussing at the moment. --  14:30, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

It seems you said above that you are going to downgrade level 319 after three days. It's now more than 3 days that the comment is posted, but it seems you haven't still downgraded the level cause the color is purple. And then, 400 is "consid easy"??? This really looks like a hoax to me! Am I the only one who thinks the level is so hard? And for 149, did you add my support for upgrading the level?

94.201.199.38 05:14, November 14, 2013 (UTC)


 * Level 319: ✅


 * Level 400: ❌ 3 supports, 1 neutral, 1 oppose. Therefore, we need 2 more supports.


 * Level 149: Yes I did, but still not enough to upgrade the level. I would like to, but then it seems some other people are not willing to do so. -- 14:04, November 14, 2013 (UTC)

And you need to downgrade 131 cause 3 users are supporting this issue. Level 472 also should be medium. I think the difficulty is just set "hard" because it looks hard, but now 3 users say it should downgrade. 91.99.61.34 12:52, November 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * Level 131: ✅


 * Level 472: Isn't this already medium? -- 14:28, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

I don't understand why 483 is medium while many people are saying the level is hard, level 480 should be "VERY HARD" cause many players say, and the worst of all, 491 IS MEDIUM WHEN EVERYONE IS SAYING THE LEVEL IS HARD!!! Aside from all of these, levels 417 and 421 are MUCH HARDER THAN 419!!!!!! You can't say 419 is the hardest level of soda swamp because just 2 users found it so hard! 492 should be VERY HARD as well, 488 and 486 should be HARD, and 487 should be CONSID HARD.

31.59.70.83 15:47, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Level 476 is really harder than 478! If you're going to mark only one of them hard it should be 476 not 478. Please Fix This VERY LOW Ratings!!!!!!!!!!

31.59.70.83 20:09, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

'Believe level 476 and 483 AND 491'' are harder than 478! If you don't believe me, see how many views the videos of skillgaming has! And compare!'''

31.59.67.224 19:23, November 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * Let me call a staff to unprotect the template. -- 08:06, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Evidence: skill gaming video and many other videos for 417 has at least 3 TIMES MORE VIEWS than level 419! I know how many view a video is not the best reason foe rating levels, but 3 times more views is really high! I think it's better to either upgrade 417 to "insanely hard" or downgrade 419 and 421 to "very hard" and say the hardest level of soda swamp is "either 417, 419 or 421".

Please also fix other crazy VERY LOW ratings after this template is unprotected! Beside, are you going to make a template for dreamworld?!?!?!?!?!?

31.59.67.224 18:06, December 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * The views don't prove anything, and the poll of level 417 is not enough to prove that 417 is "insanely hard". Moreover, if I am not wrong, I see some people claiming either 419 or 421 is harder than 417. For dreamworld, due to its temporary presence, I won't make the difficulty, but a template will be made. -- 03:58, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

Hello? Did you really count the vote for "very easy" in level 417 poll?!?!? If you didn't the median falls to "insanely hard" and Lefty thinks the level is insanely hard as well. That vote for "very easy" is seriously crazy and shouldn't be counted. So PLEASE PLEASE Upgrade this 417 and 476 and 491 after this template is unprotected, also upgrade 483 if more people agreed with me.

91.99.29.132 13:40, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

Please add an "insanely hard" vote from me (for level 417) cause I haven't voted yet and will vote ASAP. 91.99.29.132 13:49, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

Shouldn't 393 upgrade to medium as well?

31.59.64.216 19:02, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

You shouldn't downgrade level 455 to "consid easy". First of all, that poll is crazy cause the difficulty of that level is variable, BUT THERE IS ONLY 1 VOTE FOR MEDIUM and this is while many people who find the level easy vote for medium. Besides, you shouldn't forget the huge amount of people who find it hard and the public which is shouting "THIS LEVEL IS SUPER HARD".

91.99.14.115 11:17, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

483 should be "con hard" since 484 is, and 471 should be "hard" since 482 is! About 476, just forgot cause I did it easier than I did in my friend's PC. And I still suggest upgrading 487 and 492.

31.59.69.83 11:02, December 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * Level 476: Discussing at the moment.


 * Level 491: ✅


 * Level 393: ✅


 * Level 455: ❌ I didn't downgrade it, but "medium" is the median of the poll previously.


 * Level 483: ✅


 * Level 471: I will discuss.


 * Level 487: ❌


 * Level 492: ❌
 * 10:06, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

--91.99.51.48 14:25, December 8, 2013 (UTC) We need to make a 374-378 and 417-422 hell's cluster page. What's you're opinion?

WTF? Level 428 is originally "hard", but "con hard" in template. Same with level 482 and 408 and many other levels. Please fix this! Aside, Lefty thinks LEVEL 422 is "EASY" just because he did it in few tries. Why is he downgrading levels like this? Is he out of mind???--188.245.208.211 15:20, December 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * I will opt for 417-422, but I will check for 374-378 as well.


 * Don't consider the founder's difficulty, because it is only representing that person's opinion. I'm not sure why everyone is looking at the criteria without looking at "suggested difficulty by other users". -- 13:43, December 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * 13:44, December 10, 2013 (UTC)

--91.98.171.231 13:04, December 11, 2013 (UTC)Level 494 is not too hard. I suggest that to be "medium". But 487 is quite difficult and take tries.

--91.98.171.231 20:17, December 12, 2013 (UTC) I suggest upgrading 434 and 445 to "very hard" as some other players are also supporting this issue right now (for example Lefty).

--91.98.172.38 06:43, December 13, 2013 (UTC) I don't see any reason 149 is not "hard". That level truly sucks! Much more than 152!

--91.98.172.38 06:50, December 13, 2013 (UTC) Level 413 and 494 are easy. Level 413 is NOTHING compared to 420 and 422.


 * Level 494:


 * Level 434: 3 more days


 * Level 445: ✅


 * Level 149: ❌ Still there are voices of opposition on upgrading this level.


 * Level 413:
 * 03:06, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

31.59.67.215 17:00, December 18, 2013 (UTC)So the hardest level of soda swamp is now 421 since level 419 is nerfed and most people find 421 harder. There is lots of evidence for that.

31.59.67.215 17:49, December 18, 2013 (UTC)Level 427 should upgrade due to the community. I also suggest upgrading 460 and 492 to "very hard".


 * There are a lot of supports for upgrading Level 427, so it'll be upgraded very soon.


 * For level 419 and 421......they are both difficult. The nerf in 419 is probably not enough to make it easier.


 * Blueeighthnote (talk) 10:07, December 19, 2013 (UTC)

Levels 121 and 433 should definitely definitely upgrade to "con hard". Remember these difficulties are for every person, and most people find timed levels hard (this is the reason king removed them from the game). Just because the users of this wiki are fast in timed levels, doesn't mean everyone (such as older players) should be fast too. 31.59.67.215 13:12, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

I just went to the page of level 455 and then I saw what?? Level 455 is marked medium?? Huh? I guess the poll for the level is a bit silly cause most people even in the comments believe the level is considerably hard. I'm sure there is a mistake. And if these difficulties are for alerting every group of people, the level should absolutely upgrade cause people should know they might be stuck in that level. 31.59.67.215 13:33, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

91.99.54.41 07:43, January 4, 2014 (UTC): So shouldn't 445 upgrade to insanely hard? There are enough supports for upgrading I think. Please do it if you're ever going to look at this page which is almost useless now.


 * It is never useless, and I may upgrade the level if it gets enough votes. 09:38, January 4, 2014 (UTC)

188.245.176.242 07:15, January 5, 2014 (UTC): So I suggest downgrading 449 since it is not that hard. I think levels 447 and 451 are much harder than that.


 * I'm discussing at the moment. -- 10:28, January 5, 2014 (UTC)

31.59.66.173 19:05, January 5, 2014 (UTC): I suggested upgrading 327 before, but now I seriously suggest downgrading both 321 and 327. I think 332 is more needing an upgrade to con hard since it is much harder. And 149 again. That level is really needing to upgrade if it is still not "hard". Those comments in the main website is a very good evidence for how hard the level is. 275 also needs to upgrade (even with the strategy written) as it is still a very big problem.

31.59.66.173 19:09, January 5, 2014 (UTC): Looks like 149 is upgraded and my device was showing a wrong page for other level(?). Sorry for that and thanks for upgrading it.

31.59.66.173 20:15, January 5, 2014 (UTC): Some changes you should make: 389 and 468 should downgrade due to the community and level 242 should upgrade. Besides, level 469 can downgrade to hard since many users find it easy and 460 can upgrade to very hard cause some players support the issue.

82.99.244.197 11:45, January 6, 2014 (UTC): So levels 471 and 485 should upgrade. No?

82.99.244.197 11:52, January 6, 2014 (UTC): It also seems 499 and 494 need change in difficulty (one upgrade and one downgrade).

213.217.52.62 18:36, January 6, 2014 (UTC): No reason for putting 273 "very hard". There are MANY users who find that level easy. It's a joke to say 273 is same as 275 in difficulty. If 273 is going to remain very hard, 275 should be "insanely hard" with no hesitation and no poll needed.

213.217.52.62 18:40, January 6, 2014 (UTC): Oh and the Facebook difficulty of 288 should also upgrade to "very hard" if 273 is not going to downgrade back to "hard".

Upgrade level 275 it has good number of votes in the poll more than 410 and 419

188.245.99.205 07:16, January 7, 2014 (UTC)